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Did you watch 'The Untamed/CQL' or the Donghua and now you're just absolutely in love with MDZS? And you found this sub and there's SO much and you're just overwhelemed?
Dear excited yet lost and confused about the whole MDZS universe, here's our guide into the wonderfully varied and fantastic world of MDZS. Buckle up, there's a lot! (and maybe grab a snack while reading)
Mo Dao Zu Shi - The NovelThe novel, Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation (魔道祖师, Mó Dào ZǔShī; also: Founder of Diabolism) is a Chinese danmei (BL) web novel by Mo Xiang Tong Xiu, originally published on the Chinese web novel site JJWXC from October 31, 2015 - March 1, 2016, with additional side stories that continue to be released sporadically. The revised version of the main story was later published online until September 7, 2016. A formal paperback version was then published by PINSIN STUDIO (平心出版) was released on December 12, 2016, with a total of four volumes.
As for trasnlations, unfortunately there is no official english tranlsation, however the Exiled Rebel Translations took upon the porject and now have it fully translated on their website here. We have a few ongoing translations from 2 users on the sub currently which you can check out from the links on our sidebar.
The novel, after receiving a huge populaity, now has multiple adaptations, including a Manhua, an Animation, an Audio Drama, and a live-action Web Series.
Since the novel is the origin, it is the most uncensored of all the versions and is clearly a BL, exploring kinks and what not in the extra set of chapters. We advise the readers to be aware of this.
Mo Dao Zu Shi - The Donghua/AnimeThe MoDaoZuShi Donghua, also named 魔道祖师; pinyin: Mó Dào Zǔ Shī, is produced by Tencent Penguins and B.C May Pictures.
The donghua is in Mandarin and moves at a slightly fast pace but mostly follows the flow of the original book, unlike The Untamed where all the flashbacks are grouped into one. However, there were some changes to the plot. Certain monsters and major plot points were revealed earlier on in the series. The series is censored but hints at homosexuality are still made. At the end of the second season, the story left off right before the Yi City arc.
The first season, 15 episodes, aired from July 9 to October 6, 2018. The first two episodes were 32 minutes long, while the rest were 24 minutes long. The second season aired from August 3, 2019 to August 31, 2019 with only 8 episodes. All episodes in season two were 24 minute long. Season 3 has already been confirmed and is rumored to be released sometimes in 2021.
The best place to watch the series would be on YouTube by a channel called Tencent Videos. There are subtitles in Arabic, English, Korean, Portuguese, Spanish, and more are being added.
The Korean Dubbing version was aired here-%EB%A7%88%EB%8F%84%EC%A1%B0%EC%82%AC-1%EA%B8%B0) during may 2020.
On July 31st, 2020, a chibi mini series, titled “MDZS Q”, made its debut with its first episode. New episodes will be aired on We TV every Friday. Currently, the episodes are initially available for VIP viewers only; however, there is a possibility that they will be opened for non-VIP viewers in the future. The chibi mini series is a spin-off of the main donghua, with the intent to focus on lighthearted moments to provide a respite from the heavier content of the main storyline. More details here
The Unatmed/ CQL - The Live Action Drama'The Untamed, or 陈情令 (Chén Qíng Lìng) as it is known in Chinese (hence giving birth to its colloquial nickname, CQL, online) is the live-action drama version of MDZS, comprising of fifty episodes. Starring Xiao Zhan as Wei Wuxian and Wang Yibo as Lan Wangji (voiced by Lu Zhixing and Bian Jiang respectively, both of whom reprised their roles in the audio drama as well as donghua), the show was an instant hit both within China and globally. The show was praised for its captivating displays of acting as well as its heart-wrenching soundtrack, amongst much more. Due to Chinese censorship laws, however, the romantic relationship between the main leads has been toned down to meaningful stares and wistful glances – more implicit than explicit, but nonetheless evident. Additionally, this is the only adaptation of the novel that is not termed ‘MDZS’ since its storyline differs significantly from the original – to the point where it may be considered a slightly canon-divergent alternative universe.
Production for the drama lasted a little over two years, and after that the project was announced in early 2018, with filming ending in August of the same year. It first aired on Tencent Video in June 2019, and is currently available for free streaming, complete with subtitles, on WeTV, Netflix, Viki as well as YouTube!
Aside from the actual drama itself, the CQL production teams also released a 20-episode ‘Special Edition’ of the show, focusing mainly on the relationship between our main leads, with a rearrangement of the drama’s ending. Two spin-off films were subsequently produced: ‘The Living Dead’ and ‘Fatal Journey’, focusing on secondary characters and their development – both of these are available, subtitled, for purchase on the iQiyi app.'
Anyone who's craving for more in terms of the BL aspect of the story, can give the novel a try, since it is the completely uncensored version of the story. (beware the extra chapters are explicit)
Mo Dao Zu Shi - The Manhua/MangaThe MDZS web comic, or manhua, is titled the same as the novel, and was first published on December 8th, 2017. It has been drawn by Mao Tuan Xiao Jian Jian and Luo Di Cheng Qiu, with HAloggzIt behind the cover illustration. The manhua is one of the two media of the franchise that is currently ongoing; as of July 27th, 2020 – the date of the latest update – the most recent chapter is 142, and is updated at the rate of one new chapter every week. Officially released in Chinese by kuaikanmanhua, the official English translation is available at WeComics but kindly note that chapter 100 onwards, they are accessible only for VIPs. Fan-translated versions of the manhua, in English as well as French and Polish, may be found here on Mangadex.
The manhua, in a fashion similar to the audio drama, closely follows the novel and stays true to it, but is more censored than the aforementioned two – although the censorship restrictions are looser here, nothing explicit is depicted, but smaller scenes like kisses have been omitted as well thus far.
The manhua has been well-received both globally and within China as well, even winning ‘Best Manhua’ at the China Golden Rooster and Hundred Flowers Film Festival (1st Network Drama Awards).
Mo Dao Zu Shi - The Audio DramaThe MDZS audio drama, or广播剧, is a spellbinding, captivating adaptation of the original novel by Mo Xian Tong Xiu, produced by Polar Penguin Studios and released in June 2018. The drama is closely based on the original novel and its production was supervised by Mo Xiang Tong Xiu herself. It consists of three seasons, with numerous additional “bonus” chapters and snippets featuring a rotating cast of characters.
The audio drama was a critical and financial success, praised for its storyline, high production value, and voice actors’ performances, including those of Lu Zhixin in his first performance as Wei Wu Xian (reprised later in The Untamed) and Bian Jiang as Lan Wang Ji (reprised in the donghua). The drama is available exclusively on the Chinese audio streaming website Miss Evans/猫耳FM, where all three seasons remain as the website’s top 3 most listened-to series. As of June 2020, the series has garnered 400 million playbacks.
The audio drama's massive popularity and success led to its Japanese adaptation, which was produced by Brave Hearts studio and began airing in January 2020 via MiMiFM and Miss Evans FM. The drama is not officially translated into English, but fans have worked to create and release an English subtitled version that is available on the web.
Merchandise'The MDZS franchise has a vast and beautiful collection of official merchandise, from adorable plushies and headbands, to even cosmetics! The author of the novel has explicitly forbidden the distribution of unofficial merchandise, so kindly keep that in mind during your perusal of the Internet in this purpose. Since the official distributors are all based in China and use Taobao as their platform of choice, many gracious fans have taken it upon themselves to prepare guides in order to help international supporters.
One such example is this Tumblr post by user kittykat2010, which details both the relevant websites and how to operate them.
Additionally, you can visit here for The Untamed merchandise in particular.
Fan-Fictions & Fan-Art CommunityThe MDZS fandom is one grandly talented community full to the brim with mind-blowingly gorgeous fan fictions and Fan art that encompasses all genres and ships alike – you are bound to find something that will tickle your fancy and leave you awestruck at the sheer brilliance of the artist and writers. Fix its, modern AUs, canon divergent stories are common tags for the FFs while modern AUs to re-enacted scenes from one of the other media for the fanarts, we have everything – and on all platforms you could think of, too!
Fanfictions are best found of 'Archiveofourown' or 'tumblr'. Fanarts, while the more popular ones are circulated on Twitter, you may also turn to Reddit, Instagram, Tumblr, Weibo/Oasis, wherever it is that suits you best, and all you need to do is type in ‘MDZS’ or ‘魔道祖师’ in Chinese to enter the never-ending universe of diverse and beautiful fan art, produced by fans from every corner of the world.
TL;DR (links in detailed para)The novel - is the original, in chinese, has English fan-translations available. Most uncensored.
The Donghua - currently 2 seasons in. Season 3 announced for 2021; had been dubbed in Korean recently; is censored so far
MDZS Q (Donghua Chibi Version) - started airing 31st July, 5 minutes, 2 episodes every Friday.
The Live Action (The Unatmed/ Chen Qing Ling) - the most popular one; 50 episodes (has 20 ep special edition); is censored. (but trust me BL is evident)
The Manhua - Comics version not yet finished, translated in English by fan group; censored so far (but has unofficial uncensored kiss)
The Audio Drama - complete and available in Chinese (with fan subs) and Japanese. Is critically considered to be the best version; is uncensored; 3 seasons.
Merch - MDZS has a world of official merch available, for both the Anime and the live action. MXTX, the author forbids any unoffcial merch so please be advised.
Fanfictions and Fanarts - the community is rich with wonderful writers and artists. AO3, tumblr, twitter are all full of rich works that you can explore and find solace in when the original story hurts you loool
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Qin never built Greatwall [sic] it was built during North Song Dynasty to stop the nomadic incursion into Yellow riverWell, not quite. I quote from The Great Wall of China: From History to Myth by Arthur Waldron:
It should be clear, first of all, that no "Great Wall" anything like our modern conception of it existed in ancient times. Before the sixteenth century, walls in China were of a modest scale, and eroded easily. Furthermore, they followed no single route, but rather a series of different ones, according to the defense needs of the dynasties that built them. One makes sense of them by looking at each against the background of the strategic and political challenges of the dynasty that built it, not by linking them all together into [one] single mystical structure.See also this map of fortifications in northern China and the steppes further north.
Ancient Chinese records indicates ancient Chaoxian (Korean) was made up by Mo [Maek] tribes as well and even Samguk Sagi have passage where Baekje, Gaya and Silla being Mo tribe descendants but some Korean scholars claimed this Mo tribe as Hmong but it wasn't it was the related to Murong Xianbei tribe.Some background information for those not acquainted with Korean history. The History of Korea by Djun Kil Kim is an awfully short (IMO) but decent English introduction as our book list says so it's worth a read.
The progenitor [of the kingdom] was surnamed "Bak" and named "Hyeokgeose." He was crowned in the Bingchen day of April of the Jiazi year or the first year of Wufeng during the reign of the Emperor Xiaoxuan of the Early Han [BC 57] and was called the Geoseogan. His age was thirteen, and he took Seonabeol [cognate with modern Korean seoul "capital" and beol "field"] as the name of his country. Prior to this, emigrants from Joseon had formed six settlements in the valleys, and these were called the Six Towns of Jinhan; Yangsan on the Al River, Goheo on Mount Dol, Jinji on Mount Chwi, Daesu on Mount Mu, Gari on Mount Geum, and Goya on Mount Myeonghwal. Sobeol, chieftain of Goheo, looked at the slopes of Mount Yang and saw a horse kneeling and weeping in the bushes besides the Na Well, but when he went the horse was gone and there was a large egg. When he split open the egg there was a baby within. He raised the child and at the age of ten the child was wise and skillful. The people of the Six Towns who had venerated and respected the child for his miraculous birth so made him their king. The Jin[han] people called a squash bak and because the egg [he was born in] had been like a squash they gave him "Bak" as his surname.1 Geoseogan in the Jin language means king.But what's even more ridiculous is the claim that the Sagi says that the Gaya chiefdom/statelet confederation was Maek. Besides the fact that the Sagi hardly discusses Gaya at all, our actual main source for Gaya myths, the Samguk Yusa, states the following (my translation to get the gist of it across rather than a literal translation, see the original Chinese and a Korean translation here):
Since the creation of the world this land had had no name for a country nor for kings and officials. There were only nine gan: the Ado Gan, the Yeodo Gan, the Pido Gan, the Odo Gan, the Yusu Gan, the Yucheon Gan, the Sincheon Gan, the Ocheon Gan and the Shingwi Gan. These chieftains ruled over a hundred towns and 75000 people. Most lived in the mountains and the plains, drinking in wells and tilling the fields. [In 42 AD] there was a strange sound like a call from the Guji Peak north of the land, and two or three hundred people gathered there. They heard a voice like that of a person but without a body. The voice asked, "Are there people here?" The nine gan replied, "There are us." The voice came again, "Where am I?" The nine gan replied, "You are on the Guji Peak." The voice said, "Heaven has made me descend here to found a new country and to be its king. If the next day you dig in the earth top of the peak while dancing and chanting 'Turtle, turtle, take out your head, if you do not take it out we will cook you and eat you' the great king shall come and you shall dance in joy."We see from this myth that the Nakdong River Valley was inhabited and ruled by local chieftains or gan and that the first Gaya kings are never stated to be Maek individuals - or even humans, for that matter, since they hatched from golden eggs and one of the six supposedly lived to the age of 157. While the myth has been interpreted as symbolic of historic events, nowhere in any primary source does it ever say that the Gaya confederation was composed of "Maek tribe descendants".
The nine did as they said and all danced and chanted. Soon when they looked up on the sky violet ropes fell from the sky and touched the earth. At the end of the ropes there was a golden chest wrapped in crimson cloth. When they opened it there were six golden eggs round as the sun. [...] Twelve days later at dawn many people gathered again to open the chest again and saw that the six eggs had become fair children. [...] The fifteenth of that month they all became kings of Gaya.
Baekje's Buyong vassal Tammora aka TaiwanTammora actually refers to Jeju island (see this) and is probably cognate with modern Korean seomnara "island country." There is no evidence that Baekje had any sort of influence whatsoever in ancient Austronesian Taiwan. As explained here Taiwan was undergoing a peaceful transition to the Iron Age at Baekje's epogee, and most Chinese trade goods discovered on the island date no further back than the Tang Dynasty. There is no evidence that Taiwanese chieftains were vassals to a kingdom far far away, particularly considering their isolation from China, just across the channel.
Maek is another name for Balk not MoNo. I don't know what the "Balk" even are, and they do not seem to exist based on my google searches. But 貊 is pronounced mo in Mandarin and maek in Korean, and the Maek are the only people with a name remotely similar to mo that played a major role in ancient Korean history. Maybe "Consoleman" realized he knew shit about ancient Korea and tried to save face with this.
Let's summarize the Gojoseon's location:1) There's no evidence for a polity identifiable as Gojoseon that existed in the Shandong peninsula during the Shang period. Now, there is evidence that Shandong was inhabited by people their western neighbors saw as Dongyi or "Eastern Barbarians". From The Archaeology of China: From the Late Paleolithic to the Early Bronze Age, emphases mine
1. Shang period - Gojoseon was divided into nine Dongyi nations and stretched far as Shandong
2. Zhou Dynasty period - Gojoseon was at Hebei-Liaoxi-Inner Mongolia
3. Revolt at Hebei region made Gojoseon to relocate to the East, Hebei became control by Xiongnu
4. Yan attacked Donghu and Gojoseon and taken Liaoxi from Gojoseon
5. Han attacked Gojoseon again and re-take control over Liaoxi
But KoreaSentry here committed the horrible sin of thinking that "Dongyi" was a singular ethnic group that was the ancestor of one modern ethnic group. Dongyi were not Japanese. Dongyi were not Koreans. Dongyi was simply a catch-all term for eastern peoples alien to China, a term that had little regard for cultural, linguistic, or political differences within the Dongyi. For example, a good third of one of the volumes of Records of the Three Kingdoms (not to be confused with a later novel of a similar title) is solely about the Dongyi. But these "Dongyi" include Tungusic speakers, Koreanic speakers, and Japonic speakers; they include hunter-gatherers, millet farmers, and rice farmers; they include full-fledged kingdoms and loose organizations of chiefdoms. The people who resided in Shandong during Shang days and the people who resided in Korea during Han days were both called Dongyi, but all that tells us is that they lived east of "China" and that they were considered barbaric, both of which we knew.In the late Shang oracle-bone inscriptions the name "Renfang" was used to refer to the region, in south Shandong and north Jiangsu, of alien people whom the Shang kings waged wars. It is also commonly believed that the characters "Ren" in the late Shang inscriptions and "Yi" [the second character in the compound Dongyi] in Zhou and Han documents refer to the same people, who resided to the east. Accordingly, peoples identified by the Zhou as residing to the east were also commonly called Dongyi ("Eastern Barbarian"). Many Chinese archaeologists often use the term Dongyi to refer to the Yueshi culture. Apparently, these Yi peoples did not belong to a single ethnic group.
He was claiming that Kublai Khan attacked China and taken control over Beijing and northern states and I was little confused as when Kublai Khan seized control over Beijing, this city was already occupied by Jurchen Jin Dynasty not Chinese dynasty and Chinese Song Dynasty was at far south when this happened.Alright. Both the drama and "Consoleman" are egregiously wrong because Genghis Khan had already conquered the city of Zhongdu (what would later be Beijing) decades before Kublai Khan was already born. When the Jin emperor moved south to the city of Kaifeng, defended by the Yellow River, the former Jin capital of Zhongdu was quickly besieged by Genghis. After several failed attempts to breach the defensive walls of the city the Mongols decided to let Zhongdu starve to defeat. The commander of the Jin forces fled to join his emperor in Kaifeng in June 1215, and soon after it fell to the Mongols. This is a basic event of Genghis's conquests and it's incredible that the moderator of a forum supposedly about East Asian history doesn't know about this.
It seems Chinese are trying to paint Liao, Jin and Yuan Dynasty as Chinese dynasties.For those not versed in Chinese history, the Liao Dynasty was founded by the initially nomadic Khitan people and ruled much of the steppes north of China as well as parts of northern China. The Jin Dynasty was founded by Jurchens who were Tungusic and lived in Manchuria; after taking over most of the Liao the Jurchens invaded the Song Dynasty to the south and conquered most of northern China. The Yuan Dynasty was founded by the Mongols after their conquest of all of China, including the Song Dynasty which had relocated south after the Jurchens. I recommend the fantastic Imperial China 900-1800 by Frederick W. Mote.
Theoretically, the imperial Qidan [Khitan] may have emerged as "geniuses in the making of their own architectural tradition"; but practically they most probably had to rely on their Chinese architects and builders, who were able to translate their religious conceptions and political aspirations into three-dimensional architectural structures of great complexity.source
This was the system of Liao: during [937 - 945] the emperor and the officials of the Southern Region dressed according to Chinese style [while those in the Northern Region did not]
[In 941] On the day bingzhen ... it was decreed that Khitan individuals who held Chinese offices [i.e. offices in the Southern Chancellory] were to follow Chinese customs and might intermarry with Chinese.
After  at big ceremonies even officials of the third rank and above in the Northern Region also wore Chinese clothes. After  at big ceremonies all dressed in the Chinese style.
In  it was decreed that Khitans who had committed one of the ten grave crimes should also be sentenced according to [Chinese] law.These quotes might give the impression that the Khitan were wholesale Sinicized. The Liao empire and the Khitan civilization were distinctly multicultural and hybrid, and the Khitan themselves tried and preserved their old steppe traditions particularly towards the north. But the Liao Dynasty was a society with a large Chinese population that had embraced a number of Chinese traditions, their emperors called themselves huangdi and took on imperial language such as the throne name or the temple name, and their legacy - artistic, political, and otherwise - would linger on in the region and continues in China today. It perfectly deserves to be called a Chinese dynasty.
Chinese sino-centric view of their neighbors stopped after Qin Dynasty.If this was the case I want an explanation as to why Wang Fuzhi thought it was okay to deceive "barbarians" while doing the same thing to the Chinese was obviously not. While I don't have the full quote at hand, in one of his works Wang says something to the point of
It is not against ren for China to decimate the barbarians; it is not against xin for China to deceive the barbarians; it is not against yi for China to take and farm the land of the barbarians. It is ren that China decimate them to protect her people; it is xin that China deceive them and see them as malign; it is yi that China take their land to strengthen her people.Read that and tell me that Sinocentristic outlooks on the world died after the 3rd century BC. Besides I also want an explanation as to some of the wording of this letter. I want an explanation as to why the Korean1 court agreed that barbarians have no concept of li or ritual. In other words, I want an explanation to a lot of things I know to be true about East Asian history.
Chinese also need to remember that notion of "China" did not existed prior to 1912.I'll just quote from Wang Fuzhi, who I introduced earlier as a 17th-century scholar vehemently against the Manchu and other barbarians (source is The Manchu Way: The Eight Banners and Ethnic Identity in Late Imperial China, but I'm tweaking a few words2):
There are two great barriers in the empire: [the first is the barrier between] Chinese and barbarians, [and the second is that between junzi and xiaoren] [.....] the barbarians, with respect to the Chinese, are born in alien lands. As their lands are alien, their customs are alien, so their behavior is entirely alien.Wang Fuzhi clearly distinguishes "China" (Huaxia) from "barbarians" (Yidi). In fact, concepts such as 中華 zhonghua 中國 zhongguo or 華夏 Huaxia, all translated in English as "China," as a entity differentiated from her foreign neighbors is a virtually ancient one, mentioned in texts such as The Records of the Grand Historian.
There's no historical proof of that bullshit claim [that 'Phags-pa is related to Hangul]Well, no. There's a number of misconceptions about Hangul often found in the general Korean public. These include more reasonable ones such as "Sejong independently invented the concept of an alphabet", to more hardcore idiotic ones such as "Hangul is the only script with a known creator," to completely inane ones like "Hangul is actually the oldest script in the world!" I don't think public education about Hangul in Korea is helping.
Elements of the new Korean script not only drew from Chinese rhyme tables, dictionaries, and phonological scholarship but also demonstrated awareness of alphabetic scripts used in the Mongol Empire, such as the Mongol-Uighur script, 'Phags-pa, and the Tibetan script.While the innovative spirit represented in Hangul is worthy of applause, it's historically dishonest to claim that Hangul is an independent invention.
Khitan left China long ago and established another nation and their descendants are called Kazakhstan. There's even Yuchi's descendants called UyghursAs mentioned above, the Para-Mongolic-ness of Khitan is widely accepted. Meanwhile we know that the Kazakh language is a Turkic language belonging to the Kipchak subfamily. Despite the Altaic hypothesis, no verifiable genetic connection between the Turkic and Mongolic languages have been confirmed. Kazakhs speak a fundamentally different language from the old Khitans. Sure, there are probably a few things that the Turkic peoples of the central steppes learned from Khitans or Kara-Khitans (I wouldn't know) but that's like saying that the English are
What makes people different from mere beasts or birds? It is the nature to respect the five fundamental principles and five moral disciplines, the nature to reject barbarity and follow [Chinese] civilization [.....] For three hundred years [Beijing had fallen to the Manchus 257 years before] China has been underwater, the four seas have yellowed and dirtied. But one remnant of the spring lingers on alone in the east, like a great fruit high in the air that shows that the force of life still remains on the tip of the branches in a world subsumed by death. The world adores it; the people depend it on it dearly. Shall you take even this away and leave a world of only darkness and no light?2 They translated 君子 junzi as "superior people." Like many Chinese concepts junzi is a tricky word to translate, but it has no connotations of inherent superiority that the English term "superior people" brings with it, and is really a direct antonym to 小人 xiaoren meaning "petty-minded person, narrow-minded person". For consistency I changed the translation of xiaoren back into Chinese too.
I believe Jeju and Ryukyu people are same people just that two were influenced by two different peopleWhat? First, the Jeju dialect/language is distinctly Koreanic, with most words cognate with the mainland Korean. There are large numbers of Chinese loans and some Mongol loans, both to be expected (the Yuan Dynasty directly controlled Jeju for three generations and there were at least a few Mongols living there) but the basic vocabulary, the grammar, and the phonology are all Koreanic. There are some phonemes that do not have cognates in modern Korean such as the arae a (/ɒ/ afaik) but they all derive from Middle Korean. Not unlike the relationship between Scots and English, actually. By contrast, the Ryukyuan languages are all Japonic and show evident affinities to Japanese. A simple table with some oversimplifications (source for Okinawan is this and source for Jeju is 표준어로 찾아보는 제주어 사전)
|English||Standard Japanese||Okinawan||Standard Korean||Jeju|
In television, novels, even in certain history books, I increasingly frequently encounter the far-fetched claim that Baekje was some sort of ancient maritime empire. I do not pretend not to know how and why these claims have emerged, but they are only hurdles to an accurate analysis of history, because a wrong theory is in the end nothing more than just that - a wrong theory.
In fact, it is worth a reminder that an important fact is too often forgotten while dealing with the tomb of Muryeong. The artifacts and structure of the tomb closely mimic the tomb style of the Chinese Liang Dynasty. The southward positioning of the bodies, the Chinese-style tomb guardians, the Chinese porcelain cups and vessels, the bronze mirrors based on Han styles, the Chinese Wu Zhu coins, the Liang-style bricks with lotus decorations...all this means that had the royal epitaphs not been found, many scholars would definitely have assumed the tomb to have belonged to some Liang émigré. The scale of this Sinophilia is evident in the very first word of the epitaph where the king is introduced as "the Great General who Tranquilizes the East," a title granted to him by the Liang emperor that may have been a mark of royal authority. Someone who had thought that Muryeong's tomb was a masterpiece of indigenous Korean culture would definitely be shocked and disappointed if he ever visited the Nanjing Museum.
These Sinophilic tendencies should be understood in a historic context. Throughout the history of Baekje, active cultural contact with Chinese civilization was limited until the reign of Muryeong. That was when the kingdom finally experienced a global stage and escaped the stagnation of isolation, and it matured through its efforts to follow the general trends of East Asian culture. Koreans should not feel shame at the cultural imitation of the Muryeong reign, but they should applaud Baekje's openness and readiness towards change. World history has many examples of collapse urged on by refusals to adopt new ways and traditions. [.....] Thus did Muryeong open up to the world, and with this cultural basis his son could bring about the full splendor of Baekje civilization.
2012.08.09 01:42 tabledresser [Table] IAmA Irish person who has lived in china for the past seven years, does reddit have any questions?
|How's the government? The laws for exemple, any wierd ones? And last, how are the people you meet? Kind? Cold? Assholes? etc...||Well, Government wise they check on us foreigners like every three months to see if we're here legally, apart from hundreds of blocked sites nth else is much to notice, umm...well two laws I've learned first hand is if someone instigates a fight and the instigator gets the shit beat out of him the victims have to pay all his hospital bills plus compensation. another is if you're driving and an asshole in front of you decides to slam on the breaks for the fun of it and you hit him/her you have to pay all there repairment costs and compensation, same would be if some asshole slaps on the breaks causing a 17 car collision then the last car to bump pays for all 17 cars... Well, apart from being hospitalised with a fractured skull last year after being beaten with a brick and a few beer bottles for the sole reason that I'm a foreigner life has been pretty ok, Have a bunch of bros who would do anything for me and me for them and well yup,hope you get the point haha, I tend to stay away from assholes==|
|Tell me more about the getting hospitalized just for being a foreigner, I was considering going to China to teach. This disturbs me.||Ok, so heres what happened, I was working at a bar as a foreign correspondant and a chinese mate comes in at the end of my shift, offers to bring me for a few drinks and sheep kebab, he said i can crash at his place so I agreed. (Note:He lives pretty far from city centre,anyone interesting in google map can search 北京东坝) so we were there just me and him chattin and having a beer and a sheeps leg each,and there as another table to our right backside, well as the time went on they offered us cigarettes and came over to cheer with us and strike up a chat,things goin well anyway and after bout a half an hour they say they're leaving so we say goodbye and that was that,until...five minutes later(note: this is when things start getting hazy) I got a brick(yes a building brick,red one) busted in half over my head, my face slammed off the table and bounced back up just to be greeted with a bottle smashing into pieces on what i can presume was the same spot i previously got hit, anyway animal instinct kicks in and I stand up turn around and think holy fuck its them,all bottles and bricks(Not too hot on what happened next, I had a concussion and would later find out i had a fractured skull) well things blurred, and i looked to my friend who was also standing up unharmed,next thing i know the owner of the kebab stall grabs me and throws me inside his shack,locks the door and tells me stay there, two-three minutes later hes like they're gone, I walk over and ask where my friendd is and he's like,over there and then I started crying, man was my friend fucked, to this day he's still in emergency care in a vegetablised state,,,his head was the size of a basketball,his shoes ten metres away from him on the ground etc...I visit him twice a week and have helped him pay all his medical bills so far,doctors said theres a chance of recovery. note this happened last august. Sorry if my storys a bit long and confusing...but In the fight and when i was being hit and later according to witnesses the reason of this savage beating was because I'm a foreigner,'nuff said, and my friend got it cos he was hanging out with a foreigner.|
|That's horrible, I'm so sorry for you.||It's ok~|
|No offense intended... but couldn't this be more related to you hooking up with 26 random chicks behind the bars than you being a foreigner?||No mate, as stated in the further.posts this place was terribly far from city centre and also, im not a manwhore, i didnt plow thru 26 in a month or sth if you knw what i mean, it was 26 throughoit seven years amd some of which I regret, drunken mistakes..|
|Are you a juicy contradiction?||Not sure what you're getting at-_-|
|Link to www.youtube.com. Chinese... Japanese... Korean... What's the difference? Link to www.youtube.com.||Umm...youtubes blocked here mate...but umm...If you're questioning my credibility I can prove it one way or another.|
|It's a funny Starburst candy commercial about a Korean who lives in Scotland and acts stereotypically Scottish, which is viewed as a strange clash of cultures (a juicy contradiction). MrDreamBlind was wondering if you are an Irishman that acts stereotypically Chinese.||Ahahaha alright it sounds funny when explained like that,sorry for not understanding @ mrdreamblind and thx for explaining @novadaemon, umm, well to behonest my thinking has been changed slightly, like if i see a foreigner i dont think oh a dude, i think ohhh a foreigner yet i look at chn ppl completely normal...i knw rite==|
|You must provide proof of your identity in the body of your post when you submit your IAmA.||And how do I provide proof of my identity?-_-|
|Wanna know how I know you're white?||Cos I uploaded pics？←_←|
|Give some proof you are a) an Irish person b)Lived in China and c) did it for 7 years or something similar. Otherwise you could be some sweaty neck beard sitting in his mothers basement making up bullshit stories while jacking off to ZGB.||Wish I had facebook== So you're absically asking me for my passport photocopy, pics of me for the last 2555 days?(yes i used a calculator) and all the copies of my visa extensions even tho during mid way i have had to update my passport...?if thats not what youre saying man then pm me,and also tell me where i should place this stuff.|
|Do you eat asian/chinese food every day now? Or do you miss any food in particular from Ireland?||Well, Depends what I'm in the mood for haha I ofcourse eat the food of the gods(Nutella) but I usually have chinese every second day, well...I miss a good fish and chip and sausage rolls:S.|
|I bet you miss the milk. Every irish person i know who goes abroad suffers on account of the shitty milk everywhere else.||Jesus u got that spot on, also another "what i wouldnt give for a" factor.|
|Taytos?||To tell the truth I'd kill for a pack of monster munch (They still have em?)|
|Yes we still have em.||Ah yes`~|
|But they're called mighty munch now.||Well as long as insides the same i dun care,thx for the heads up~|
|Is it true that men and women, boys and girls, will just drop trau and take a shit on the side of the road? I hear that it's an issue with mainlanders visiting HK, etc.||Oh yes,very true...they say it is ultimately unhygienic to wear diapers...wtf.... so theyd rather have there childrens wee-wees and hoo-has out in the dirt etc....boggles the mind man, china is like.. aight its too fucked up, if anyone can make a suitable reference of words they got my upvote.|
|I've never seen a fellow Irishman type 'aight' and 'bros' etc. What county are you from ? New York?||Sorry man, just writing it like that cos i presumed reddit was mostly americans←_← Im from meelick county clare if youre wondering.|
|But it's still children? You don't see teenagers or adults just saying "dang, I gotta pinch one off right now" and just go at it? Babies I can almost understand. They shit everywhere anyways. But when you can make a conscious decision to drop a loaf somewhere, and you do, then it's different.||Well...if thats the case then u usually just see guys pissing on a wall and whatnot, u never rly see a grownup woman pissin in the middle of the street.|
|The Americans would make up a large percentage alright but you don't need to pander to them in that kind of way. They're generally a smart bunch and it's not like anyone is expecting you to labhairt as Gaeilge ;) Cheers for the AMA by the way, it's food for thought. Any info or experiences with teaching in South Korea?||Haha alright then sound,nah sorry man i haven't.|
|Why did you grow tired of teaching English? What are Chinese women like compared to western women? Has anyone accidentally spat on you? Have you lived in any other Oriental countries? And if so, then what are the differences you've noticed?||Because their level of english is too low, it gets highly frustrating.. In what way are you referring to? I ggot snotted on by an old woman... lived in hk for a month, People are alot more civilised, thats basically it~|
|I meant what are Chinese women like in a dating/relationship sense, compared to western women.||Very..well...braindead IMO...and in multiple foreign friends opinion... I think it's cos of the one child policy, all of them are princesses, spoiled rotten, there are 30 year olds who love hello kitty== They throw hissy fits in public,stomp there feet if they don't get what they want, well...to sum it up...they are mentally immature, basically the same as children. I'd pick a westerner for a relationship anyday but...damn some asians are hot:S.|
|Are you doing this self.IAmA because you feel very tall and lonely?||Hahahaha, man im 1.82 and lately yao mings seem to be popping up everywhere...scary shit.|
|How do you get a visa that allows you to stay for so long? Is prostitution quite common? Did you work/live with other western people or just chinese? Did you learn to speak mandarin?||I work... Umm..yes it is, You can find them in most KTV's for around 200-300 rmb, do the math yourself.. umm,yes when i was teaching english, mostly american or canadians, but also alot of phillipine ppl. I'm fluent in reading writing and oral.|
|'YOU RANT RICE WIT DAT?'||Dude...its china,you dont want rice they dont care,you get rice|
|How did you slip past the knight of new?||What's new for?|
|It sounds like a place I would hate visiting honestly. The lack of manners sounds like something that would piss me off. Also the lack of cleanliness... yuck.... How do you eat food there? do people really just shit in the streets? the fuck?||Children shit in the streets, dont get it too twisted in ur head lol, well...i usually make my own food or go to western restaraunts, if i got nth to make ill order and eat with my own utensils,as to at dinner with chinese mates ill just wing it~|
|What about a black guy?||Black guys get all the ladies, sad rly:(|
|Was there a large Irish community out there? I remember seeing something on tg4 there a while ago where some guy in china was trying to set up a GAA club...I've always wondered was there genuinely an Irish community out there or just one guy trying to get a grant!||Well man to be honest, I have only met like 5 irish people in my whole seven years, four of those 5 were at a bar on holidays and we drank an hour or two, the other one was a mate for about three months teaching gaelic football then he went off home and that was that~|
|What province did you work at? What did you like most about china? What did you like Least about china? Favorite dish?||Beijing,liaoning,shanxi. Cheap beer and cigarettes. peoples manners. has always been.....(drum roll) egg fried rice fuck yea.|
|Aside from the language, what is the biggest adjustment you have made as a foreigner in china?||Well, the customs here are alot different and people on the streets are very unhygienic/rude. they'll smoke right into your face, ask you alot of personal questions,constantly marvel at the fact that you're a foreigner(老外pronounced lau wy) spit all over the street and well...you'd have to be here to understand what I'm truly getting at. Apart from that would also be the food which was really hard getting used to at the start and also numerous other factors.|
|I think some of the rudeness/lack of hygiene depends on where you are as well. China is pretty large, not all of it is backwards. But you know that.||Well man, in my vast adventures across china and living in the daily lifestyle theres only one place I haven't seen this stuff, hang zhou，杭州，otherwise known as chinas own heaven on earth, man...i did not wanna leave that place.|
|Are you teaching english? or working a job? I have a friend or two over there doing it.||Was teaching for a bit, got extremely tedious, now I've decided damn I don't wanna be here any longer and am waiting for my visa to expire so i can nope the fuck outta here hehe (I should explain that in the 7 years I've been here I have yet to return home or visit other western countries)|
|Why do you need to wait for your visa to expire? Why can't you just up and leave now?||Cos i don't want to:S... and also because well.....cheap booze and cigarettes man.|
|What's the plan so?||Heading back to Ireland, not sure to do what yet,just miss home.|
|You couldn't pick a worse time to come back.||Well I heard the economy is the worst it's ever been but well, I'll see how it goes~|
|You could teach chinese language to europeans!||Have considered it actually~|
|It's terrible.. people are leaving.. 1000 a week or something.. could end up dole bound for a couple of years.||I heard everyones going to canada, but well, either way I gotta head back for a while, people have passed away while I was gone including my grandad who passed last month so..yup.|
|Hey, just to add to that thought; my friend taught English in China for 4-5 years. Came back blagged his way onto a PGCE (teaching qualification) and is now teaching Mandarin to school kids. I think there's also a decent market in teaching business men and women.||Thanks, to be honest if things don;t work out in Ireland I'm planning on hitting up canada to see how it goes and truth be told Teaching chinese in the future has been in my plan:) So thanks somuch and good luck to you too.|
|Sorry to hear dude.. whereabouts you from?||Meelick co.clare.|
|Have you ever been to Tibet? How was your journey like?||Never been, If i went there I wouldn't be allowed back in to china...umm...that word might get me blocked from reddit btw...so lets refrain frm using it and call it the smurfs or sth.|
|That sucks dude, if you ever get the chance to go Para, GO. It's fucking amazing, minus the tense atmposphere in the citys though.||Well I'm thinking of visiting the land of smurfs after I get back to ireland~ always been a big fan,always was dissapointed bout the restrictions here tho.|
|Have you met any other Irish folks? Do people stare because you look different?||Well it was previously mentioned(although at this point it's pretty hard to find in the mountain of comments)but yeah man, I've met 5 altogether, four at bars and they were on holidays and one who used to teach gaelic football here, were frds around 3 months when he went back home,so yeah, going by my experience they really are few and far apart which is pretty sad:S.|
|What do you miss most about Ireland?||Chocolate, rain rain RAINNNNN, good ole meal, garlic chips and cheese, my relatives, my dad and sister umm...well...it's too much to type when theres so many more posts to reply too so I'll sum it up, damnit man I miss everything!!T_T.|
|Is table tennis really that popular in china? How popular is table tennis in comparison to football, tennis, rugby, etc? And how important is sport in china? China is about the best(or second best) cuntry in this years olympics how much is shown in tv? how patriotic are the people?||Well from what I've seen it isn;t incredibly popular but it's usually people in school that play it the most. basketball takes the no.1 place in popularity here which is sad cos i dont play, but thankfully after that there's football(soccer) which is pretty popular and slowly increasing with chinas improvement in there football league, but sadly apart from a few fitness freaks I haven't had much of a challenge, they're not exactly...good at it...at all.. but on the other hand theres a small minority that can make your jaw drop so yeah.as for rugby etc i havent checked it out, oh umm, golf is pretty popular among the 30-40+|
|Ever been an average or decent looking white guy in Asia? All you have to do is stand in a baclub and you'll get some.||Exactly.|
|What is the beer like in China?||Well, they have there own brand "tsingtao/青岛" which you can get bottled or in draft at a pub, its pretty worth it for the price (15RMB a pint,umm...2-3 dollars?) and well,if you don't like it you can always get other foreign beers, corona, bud,guinness etc.|
|[Tried tsingtao whilst in Beijing. It wasn't for me, to say the least =](http://www.reddit.com/IAmA/comments/xvk7y/iama_irish_person_who_has_lived_in_china_for_the/c5q0bzi?context=5)||Well thats too bad man considering it's so cheap n' all:(|
|Did you live in one of the giant well know cities or a smaller city? Is the pollution really bad? Did you drive or is public transport quite good?||Well ive lived in the poorest parts of china and all over but am currently livin in beijing.WELL.....Alright,all jokes aside its disastrous.. used to ride motorbike,sold it, now use subway mostly.|
|Great AMA, first off! I was in Guangzhou for about 5 months for school last year, lots of great memories. After 7 years, why no VPN? Did you have one and decided it wasn't worth it, or just never got around to it? I bet you've done a fair bit of travelling. Where is your favorite place to go on holiday? Best vacation story?||Thanks mate, well I used to use hotspot shield(free vpn) but since it stopped working for me like 2 or 3 years ago I just couldnt be bother my arse to get a new one so thats y i dun have one~ Best place I went was hainan, thunder and lightning on the beach, it rained the whole time I was there, Ppl may think it sounds stupid or lame or sth but damn i love rain haha, and it was pretty great,played xbox 360 four player Call of duty while having beers, then if we got bored wed walk around exploring,pretty much it~|
|Could you speak a little on visa types? I had a company offer me an F visa to teach this year, and I the offer is still open, how risky would you say it is? ( I realize the F is illegal to work on) If one was found, what would be the ramifications?||If it was me I wouldn't take it unless the case was when you get there they'll switch you on to a Z visa man, chinese government are cranking down on alot of foreign related shit and if you get caught on an f visa you will either be deported or have to go to the detention centre, so you should get that clear with them mate, Z visa or nothing.|
|你有沒有操過中國的女孩? 喜歡愛爾蘭的女孩還是中國的女孩?||有干过几个吧， 我个人只对亚洲人来那种劲儿所以嗯。。。现在的女朋友是新加坡人，挺牛逼你的，国外的思想和亚洲人的身材呵呵呵， 你怎么打繁体的啊？香港人？台湾人？|
|哈哈, 非常好. 新加坡的女孩? 跟她說國語還是英語? 我是加拿大華人. 不是打出來的. 我寫的. 不知道怎樣打 lol . where did you stay in China?||英语汉语通说~他跟我一样两个都好呵呵， 啊好吧华人啊~ 几乎走遍中国了。。。~~|
|Why is it that, no matter where I go in the world, I can find an excellent Irish pub? Also, what is your favorite pub in China?||Cos we're the best drinkers+advertisement purposes haha,well if you ever get to beijing hit up first floor in sanlitun bar street(三里屯酒吧街的一楼酒吧) I'm there almost daily, great drinks,solid draft, nice beef burger if i may add and great athmosphere.|
|Have you retained an Irish accent or have you developed a 'twang'?||I've proudly retained my Irish accent:)|
|Would you mind posting an audio clip of you speaking Chinese? My brain can't decide what Chinese with an Irish accent sounds like.||Well...where would i post this to? this can be solved alot easier provided ure an iphone or android user,if so download an app called WEchat. free whatsapp type messenger, fully awesome lol.|
|Wait so do all of your (former) students have Irish accents too ???||Unfortunately no, I do like what I've been trying to do with this thread, I jist kill my accent and thats that... only feels natural when in irelqnd or talking to my family, otherwise its just a dead bland accent that I use.|
|Do you eat mostly spicy food now instead of salty?||No not really, I've liked spicy foods since I was born so I personally tend to edge towards spicy foods but you can find alot of salty/bittesweet foods etc here so your diet isn't extremely restricted,also if you feel really (insert yao ming ugh face) then you can always hit up a foreign restaraunt so yeah~|
|Sichuan would welcome you, first time I had "water boiled beef" i thought they really meant beef boiled in water...how wrong was I. :( I'm glad you are doing well, I"m full chinese and I don't speak mandarin...eesh :-/ How does it feel that you could outdrink most people in the country?||Haha pretty good i guess but damn in the seven years ive been here ive spent four tracking down the best drinkers, now my best mates all chinese, damn weve all drank one another under the table one time or another~ was just out with em again last night,christ was i shitfaced.|
|Did any Chinese women try to marry you/ were you popular with the ladies?||Thank god no for the first one. and to answer no.2, still am B-)|
|Irish I had lived in China! Sorry about the pun. Now questions. What did you think was the weirdest part of their culture? Also, where in Ireland are you from?||Meelick co.clare. well....Mostly hygiene related things...I'm a real somewhat clean freak and don;t like when a bunch of ppl all have saliva on there chopsticks and keep eating off the ame plates together, also they have weird superstitions/traditions? like if you have a baby girl you have to squeeze/pinch her nipples till water comes ut,when this happens it will guarantee she has a huge rack when shes older, diapers are unhygienic etc etc.|
|How common is it to find a cheap rip off/fake of a real product? (iPhone, Laptop, Usb device, so on) and have you had problems like that? with scams?||VERY common, knock off iphone can be anywhere from 200rmb to 1600rmb. laptops not much but u can get a sony/apple/toshiba (they all look the same as another and run xp mind you) for around 1600 rmb, usb device u can pick up a fake 16gb for around 60 rmb and so on. never been scammed,if i want fake ill intentionally buy fake lol.|
|The reason why I wanted to know is because my dad is actually in China for business and he said he'll bring some tech back and my paranoia said "no"||Well if thats the case youd be better off going with hardware than anything else, phns and laptops are a no-go but a usb disk wouldnt hurt~also bags or wallets aint to be missed.|
|I'm taking guess that you speak Mandarin? That being said, what did you find most difficult learning? I've picked up bits of it from friends.||Well..to this day I still find difficulties with the umm....pronunciation of some words, the way they have the four sounds(hard to explain==) but apart from seldom fuckups I read speal and write perfectly.|
|My wife's dad remarried a chinese woman. her son came to visit us here in the states, he lives in NZ. he hates china with a passion, says government is only there for presence, doesn't do anything to help the poor. unles you live in hong kong, you are most likely poor. Do you see any of this? how do you feel about it, not being a native?||I get where he's coming from but I wouldn't say only hk ppl are rich, there are so many "new rich" here,like they sold there farm or cold mines or rent houses etc and they all drive lambos audis ferraris bmws the like, man sometimes it seemd like the most common car here is audi a6..|
|Well, he hasn't been back to china in at least 10 years, maybe its changed. i just know he will never go back.||Well thats too bad,to each his own.|
|I know what you mean. It isn't just the Chinese either had a Polish buddy that would laugh his ass off at me when I tried to pronounce his last name. "Brezhinski", I think, sounded like a fucking dying blender.||Hahahahaha, nice use of words~ you get my upvote:P But yeah, can really tick you off.|
|I'm pretty new too. You said earlier that " I must hav had an interesting life". Well, yeah, I've seen some shit for only being 32. I'm trying to get my licenses to work on commercial shipping vessels. In the engine room. It pays really good, and I'll get to travel a lot.||Well man what Can I say? I hope all the best for you! And upvotes away~!|
|I'm sure you've experienced, when walking around, people bumping into you. What I mean with that is both of you have room to walk but they seem to walk into your path to bump into you. Has this happened often? Do you have any idea why some do this? Also, do they, in general, seem to talk louder than necessary to each other? Same as before; have any guesses as to why this is?||It's happened to me a few times, some non-intentional example a dope staring at his phone, others intentional but for what reason I still don't know, and yea man, chinese people shouldnt even need phones,most've the time they're shouting into the phones like its completely normal(not arguing or cursing)|
|Ever get robbed? How safe did you feel?||Thankfully never got robbed, altho I lost my phn a couple of times in taxis, to be honest all in all you feel very safe walking around here~|
|Is the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 acknowledged by society in general? Is it mentioned in the press every 4th of June? Are there any major news events that they do not cover or acknowledge?||It's usually not acknowledged by the younger generations but find someone in there 60's or 70's and you get a nice good story, My former chinese teacher was a 68 year old man, caterpillar eyebrows rly cool guy, he lived in france for thirteen years or sth during or after the cultural revolution,he said on the tiananmen tank crushing day his son stood in front of the tank, he said if it wasnt for him saving his sons ass he wouldve been mush too. Well...alot of news here gets restricted, especially any news harmful to china a s a whole so yeah, that's basically the gist of it.|
|As a fellow Irishman I must ask. Does being in China make the Irish Curse seem fiction?||Irish curse?! what irish curse?! blasphemy ;) if you know what i mean.|
|What are the average Chinese person's perceptions of the West like?||Tall,big nose,rich. that about sums it up.|
|This might have been asked already, but here goes. Do they treat you any differently because your Irish as opposed to British or American? Or is there just one attitude towards Westerners?||Just one attitude towards westerners, unless you're russian.... Mainly because a majority of the russian women here are prostitutes and the men well...I dunno what the men do== (No offence intended to any russian redditors)|
|Do you miss Tayto crisps? And Cadburys chocolate? What typical Irish things do you miss?||Cadburys turkish, golden crunch,sausage rolls,supermacs,fish nd chip, crisps crisps crisps all of em, miss so much, you cant even get a garlic chip n cheese anywhere here...oh the humanity...|
|I don't think there's much difference... maybe shanghai people can be a bit more snobby/commanding? They're still both chinese people living in a big city..||Well it's just a thing of North and South, matters alot in China for some reason... They're always insulting each other yet when it comes to marriage in alot of situations the parents always encourage to marry someone far away(It's actually to prevent the idea of them somehow being related somewhere up the family tree)|
|Forget about immigrants, so many tourists wtf||Haha well what can be done man? It gives the country money and that's all they care about as far as I'm concerned~|
|Did they have any good beers in China that you found? What were the alcohols of choice?||Usually local beer and bai jiu, but god is bai jiu horrible.... its around the same percentage of vodka (42 percent thereabouts/ theres also a 52/56?) but after two or three small glasses im hammered(not shot glasses)|
|Isnt there another subreddit for this??||I'm not sure.... New to reddit, thought this was it, if I'm wrong well then I wouldn't mind if the mods moved it.|
|Did you face any discrimination at all?||Well most foreigners do one way or another, be it for being white,black, other asian,hispanic etc. also we're always sterotyped as having huge noses and to be having fortunes just burning in our pockets, and contrary to our belief ive heard a few times that they think foreigners all look the same which was pretty sad.|
|I was in China for a month and one of the things that startled me the most was the driving. How do you deal with their crazy closeness, ignoring street markings sometimes, etc?||Always find a human shield, if not well then...be extra careful.|
|This is a serious question, how easy is it to get cat/dog meat?||Dog meat is pretty easy to get depending on where you live, you can find it in multiple places in beijing, but for dog and cat meat you'd either have to head up north or all the way down south(both have it), this was just in my experiences.|
|Why did you use freeimagehosting.net and not imgur ?||Cos imgur doesnt load properly:S.|